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Post by astupidpenguin on Jan 13, 2015 12:18:36 GMT
Dump ideas for OP gannon
jab-jump cancelable, hits at a more upward angle that allows it to combo into fair or even into itself on fastfallers, throw a bunch of hitstun on it so that fair is pretty much garenteed
fair does 50 shield damage, this should make shielding not a god-teir option against gannondorf
Dair- set high KB spike, allowing for infinite dair reads on DI, and killing at 0 offstage
Uair- more hitstun, janky weak spike on the end of the move that's insanely hard to hit has extremely high hitstun
Warlock punch- smoke weed every day sound replacement
Utilt- take off 2 stocks
shorten jumpsquat time to 2 or 3 frames
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Post by junker on Jan 13, 2015 20:38:39 GMT
Aerial Down-B buries grounded opponents
Grab range increased
Warlock Punch has super armor for the entire duration and ignores shields
Light armor for most of his states in general, so he can power through projectiles
Aerial Side-B is a spike and doesn't make him helpless; grounded Side-B has less knockback and much higher hitstun
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Post by FedoraTheExplorer on Jan 13, 2015 22:03:30 GMT
Armor is aids this isnt brawl minus bruh.
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 14, 2015 14:01:13 GMT
shorten jumpsquat time to 2 or 3 frames RIP ability to short hop reliably
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Post by barthurs on Jan 14, 2015 14:02:49 GMT
Jab in air aims slightly downwards and sends them straight up. Replaces nair
Utilt is twice as fast
Side B can be jump canceled.
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 14, 2015 14:08:09 GMT
I'm torn on Ganon's n-air. On one hand, having it be jab is pretty awesome and is actually pretty good (I've tested it a little); on the other hand, I also like the idea of having his normal n-air but with sweetspot hitboxes on his feet.
The jab is probably the better idea out of those two though.
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Post by astupidpenguin on Jan 14, 2015 16:57:40 GMT
I'm torn on Ganon's n-air. On one hand, having it be jab is pretty awesome and is actually pretty good (I've tested it a little); on the other hand, I also like the idea of having his normal n-air but with sweetspot hitboxes on his feet. The jab is probably the better idea out of those two though. sweetspot on the nair sound way more useful IMO, arial jab is cool and all, but by removing nair you take away a lot of Gannon's options, i feel like i would end up fairing in most situations a jab would work, and there would be more situations in which i would prefer the nair to jab
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Post by barthurs on Jan 14, 2015 17:31:04 GMT
Ganons jab would make an excellent pop up aerial. Nair rarely hits if short hopping and the two hits don't combo into itself.
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Post by Dr. Fawkes Esq. on Jan 16, 2015 13:28:29 GMT
An idea I have is changing Ganons fair to his Side B, and give him a new Side B, maybe a projectile.
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Post by Jack on Jan 17, 2015 10:44:51 GMT
I also like the idea of having his normal n-air but with sweetspot hitboxes on his feet.
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Post by Dronik on Jan 18, 2015 4:41:50 GMT
Not a move suggestion, and may be obvious but maybe allowing him to run faster than my pet rock on depressants. Oh, the luigi wavedash thing can stay too Definitely Anything for Ganon to have at least some mobility is great
Also less ending lag on some moves would allow his combos to be more diverse like down b
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 18, 2015 13:32:56 GMT
Luigi's wavedash would be weird because it makes Ganon really slippery, and that is both bad and good. On one hand, you can do shit like sliding jabs, but on the other hand, it takes a degree of control from him.
I think a traction decrease would be great, but it shouldn't be that drastic imo.
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Post by animage on Jan 19, 2015 3:02:23 GMT
Scrumpy, it would really help if you had an official list of confirmed (or not) changes for the mod so that we get an idea of what changes to each character would be balanced for the cast as a whole (unless there already is one and idk where it is)
As for ganon changes my list in my other thread still stand Pls gibe da master snoop ganon b0ss scrumpy
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Doqtor Kirby
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Post by Doqtor Kirby on Jan 19, 2015 16:47:25 GMT
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Post by lemurbat on Jan 21, 2015 14:22:43 GMT
Let him use his sword as his Neutral B.
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