Moveset Changes

[Schnurb]

Neutral B: can charge while mid-air and charges twice as fast, fully charged should be able to break shields

Side B: always will auto cancel, lower IASA frames

Up B: invulnerable for most of the duration of the move

Down B: bomb jumping goes higher, Super wavedashing has many more activation frames

Forward tilt: comes out 3 frames earlier, stronger

Down tilt: larger hitbox

Up tilt: deals explosive damage

Dash attack: always strong hit, hitboxes on her arms

F Smash: sweetspot on outermost hitbox, increase knockback

Down Smash: Lower IASA frames, make it easily executable out of a super wavedash

Up Smash: first hits deal weak knockback into each other, then the last hit has insane knockback and damage

Nair: Disjointed hitbox, increase damage but decrease knockback

Fair: Bigger hitboxes, higher damage + knockback

Bair: sweetspot on foot with crazy knockback

Uair: Hits better combo into one another

Dair: True spike, hitbox lingers for more frames

Z air: Electric damage, comes out twice as fast

Grab/ Dash Grab: entire chain has a grab hitbox

Roll: much faster, like her's in Project M

General:

Friction lowered, longer wavedash
Increase to weight
Slight increase to falling speed
Increased aerial mobility

[restnow]

Jan 15, 2015 1:33:21 GMT Schnurb said:

Super wavedashing has many more activation frames

Yes yes all of my yes. Make it a legitimate option for matches.

[theganontrain]

I like this, a lot! 
However, allow me to make a couple changes of my own... Anything I don't change, I like and would keep the same as you!

Up tilt: No explosive power, just give it ridiculous set Knockback that is weight+falling speed dependent so that it can be used to start combos vs the entire cast or lead into a finisher.

Nair: Just more Knockback, I feel like it will always be Samus' spacing move, it's also a much more reliable finisher than bair (Reliable meaning hitbox size+ lack of sourspot

F-Smash : Give it moar base Knockback 

otherwise, YOURE GOOD!

[scrumpy]

I think Samus should definitely have a much faster tether in general. Recovery would be made a little more tight, and Samus could have a good grab game that wouldn't be easy as balls to punish.

[theganontrain]

Feb 6, 2015 2:16:41 GMT scrumpy said:

I think Samus should definitely have a much faster tether in general. Recovery would be made a little more tight, and Samus could have a good grab game that wouldn't be easy as balls to punish.

How could I forget about her grab! Yeah, you got a good point. Now that I think about it, making it have a quicker retraction would probably fix the issue. I mean, it's still by far the longest grab in the game. You can literally cover all getup options by wavedashing back out of getup attack range and perform an extended grapple+ home in on your opponent.

Either that or reward a grab much more, like giving her a stupid fast pummel(but find a way so that she can't wobble with it, like automatically throwing after 10 pummels or something of that sort) or giving her something like Mewtwo's up throw for a KO option.

[thetruefalcon]

My suggestions for M- Samus:

*Please, please make the hitboxes of U-Smash link into each other. That has always bothered me.

*The final hit of Screw Attack should have something remotely resembling knockback.

*Stronker missiles?

*Down tilt should be more powerful.

I might come up with more stuff later.