Ness changes?

[FedoraTheExplorer]

Please allow me to break this character for you.

STATS -
Double jump should probably be sped up a bit
Short hop's height drastically lowered
Slightly decrease friction

GRAB -
Speed it up a bit, and increase pummel damage to 4 just for the hell of it.

BTHROW -
Increase knockback cuz why not?

UTHROW -
Decrease knockback to allow for much more followup potentials

DTHROW -
Force knockdown, and give ability to spike when right on the ledge similar to Fox's dthrow.

FSMASH -
Reflected projectiles should travel insanely fast.
Maybe apply the sweetspot to the entire hitbox or just make it bigger

USMASH -
GOTTA GO FAST! Turn it into a very good combo tool

DSMASH -
On top of increasing the knockback, should also semi spike aerial opponents, and just have a really low angle on grounded opponents
Also speed up slightly.

DASH ATTACK -
Last spark should hit straight up and slightly towards Ness, with kinda low base knockback and very low knockback scaling, almost garunteed combos from it

UAIR -
Restore 64's head intangibility and increase knockback scaling.

DAIR -
Almost completely remove the start up lag, on top of making it a spike

PK FLASH -
Increase the speed and charge-up rate drastically, to where it hits full explosion in like no time flat.
If possible, make it unreflectable.

PF FIRE -
Increase distance, activate on shield, and make it harder to DI.

PK THUNDER -
When the thunder is destroyed, Ness shouldn't go into helpless state. No more dumbass gimps, and could be used better as a way to cover recovery.
I saw the land cancel projectiles topic, this should probably be included in that list, by having you lose control of the bolt when you land and itll just continue on in whatever direction it was going in, giving Ness a strange but useful option for long range fighting.

PK THUNDER 2 -
Increase the distance, the damage, and decrease the landing lag.

PSI MAGNET -
SHINE!



He might need more than that, but I think it's a good start.

[Salty B^)]

f throw needs chains 4 days

[FedoraTheExplorer]

On the PSI Magnet topic, perhaps it could also carry momentum similar to how it works in Smash Flash 2?

[wobbleme]

The PK Flash idea is really good and I think it could also use some more shield damage making fully charged PK Flash break shields because why not?

[FedoraTheExplorer]

Well with an extremely charge time decrease it might prove to be TOO over the top.

However i do think it should probably have atleast a little boost in shield damage.

[barthurs]

I approve of all these changes

[restnow]

If I may add a couple of suggestions of my own,

Bair - Comes out on frame 5 instead of frame 10

Dair - Basically Smash 64

PK Fire - Decrease end lag to... Maybe 20 frames after it comes out? I don't know exactly, but around there.

And I'm not sure about these two but might as well mention it as well.

Up smash - add weak hitbox to when he's throwing out the yo-yo to hit the opponent into the actual swing.
**Just as a visual aid, you can see the hitbox doesn't really come out until he starts the swing in Melee, I'm suggesting for a second hitbox to start as soon as he throws the yo-yo, which if it hits hits them into the rest of the swing. imgur.com/NBK7D0Q (Maybe increase the length of the hitbox to include when he's pulling it in too?)

Down smash - Basically the same as above, but instead of a seperate hitbox just make the hitbox come out sooner (and maybe last longer as well.)

[Lucas]

Ya sure whatever...

[Simna ibn Sind]

Could you please:

Make PK Thunder move faster and while we are here.....how about make the tail of PK Thunder twice as long. Oh and make it like in v1.00 where it doesnt disappear when Ness is hit.

[Dr. Fawkes Esq.]

If its possible to extend his Up and Down smashes without removing the yoyo glitch, that would be great.

[Deleted]

extend the grab box. the range is total shit

[Swanky Kong]

Let Ness' PK Thunder 1 teleport him to wherever it touches, adjust cooldown accordingly, and characters can still interrupt it.

[Poast]

Mar 8, 2015 16:57:04 GMT Swanky Kong said:

Let Ness' PK Thunder 1 teleport him to wherever it touches, adjust cooldown accordingly, and characters can still interrupt it.

Let Ness act out of the teleport too.

[Dair rulez]

Please don't change the dair start-up. It's auto-cancel window is extremely useful for movement and for avoiding a tech. Making it a spike is all that is needed to make the move OP.

[FALCOWNPAUNCH!]

This is just an idea, do with it what you will, but what if PK Thunder 2 hit three times instead of one, but with the damage decreased to a little more than 1/3 of its original damage? The hits should link if this gets implemented IMO.